you can call me fascist, hollier-than thou, repetitive, neo-puritanical (sic) and any other insult that you can think of in that little brain of yours all you want. You can call what I post drivel all you want.

But at least I am vegan and interested in veganism and vegan cooking.

My recipes (although according to you uninspired) are vegan on a vegan cooking tribe.

and check my tribe list, I do not troll around, I belong to tribes that I agree with and am interested in.

I don't post anything that goes against a tribe. In fact that is why I left the raw vegan tribe and the ethical consumerism tirbes. I am interested in raw veganism, but the people in that tribe insist that honey is vegan, so instead of arguing with them in THEIR OWN tribe I simply left.
Likewise I am definitely an ethical consumer but the members of that tribe are so anti-vegetarian that I left.

I am not saying that everyone needs to agree with me, and anyone who has actually discussed anything with me on tribe can attest to that, but what I meant by common decency is that it only makes sense that one would try not to post something that goes against the very tribe just to piss people off.

If you don't see the obvious toxicity of posting about killing elk and buying "free-range" meat on a vegan tribe, you've either got something seriously wrong with you or you are a liar.

many vegans disagree with me, and many vegan cooks may disagree with my cooking techniques, ingredients etc, and we can discuss that, but the discussion of vegan vs. meat is not what this tribe is about.

on a higher level, I may have reacted to others when they post misinformation and insults about animal rights, but while I am an animal rights activist I have NEVER started a thread about animal rights here on a vegan tribe, eventhough many vegans may agree with it, the point is that this tribe is about vegan cooking, not animal rights.

Likewise posting about macrame or drag-racing would not make sense either (unless it somehow mpacts vegan cooking ;-) and that is what I meant about being OFF the very topic of the tribe...and to make matters worse, to consider that veganism (in the context of a cooking tribe) is about excluding animal products from one's diet, to post about animal products is more than off-topic, it's just plain rude.

AND YOU CONSTANTLY DO IT DRAEYK.

For you all roads lead to talking about "organic" meat and organic honey....(and abortion apparently)

and again, this tribe is not about arguing and dicussions about whether veganism is valid, it's about vegan cooking: vegan cooking tips, recipes, etc (uninspired or not)

and while you and others may have noticed that I do jump into the fray when someone decides they wish to argue about the validity of veganism, of course I will defend veganism and not let an ignorant or anti-vegan comment slide,a nd that makes sense, unless a tribe has a really active moderator who deletes anyhting that is aganist the topic of the tribe, it is up to the members of a tribe to defend themselves.

and defending one's self from abuse does not imply trolling or flaming. The person commiting the abuse, the person who takes it upon him or herslef to go to a vegetarian tribe and post an open letter to tell vegetarians to go to hell, the person who makes apoint of telling people in a vegan cooking tribe that she enjoys slaughtering innocent elk, the person who posts information on where to buy meat and other animal producst on a vegan tribe, those are the trolls.

and that is not cool.

it isn't about the vegan police, it's about not being a push-over. Come on! you want to talk about meat go to EVERY OTHER COOKING TRIBE!!! you want to talk about killing animals, hunting, or enslaving bees and other creatures, go somewhere else.

and if you want to preach to vegans about abortion and the connection between abortion, pro-chocie and veganism, don't do it on a vegan cooking tribe, and I would gather that if you aren't even vegan than have that discussion on a pro-choice/ pro-life discussion tribe and NOT on a vegan tribe.

yes, if the initial posting had received a reasonable retort all this might not have happened. so perhaps less churlishness and more reasonable discussion.

i do find passive aggressive victimhood depressingly familiar.

so lets talk about some food for a while...