vegan cultured foods

topic posted Fri, December 5, 2008 - 10:01 AM by  chopper-the ...
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do you guys make any? i've been making pickles, sauerkraut, kimchi, and soy yogurt for some time now. last week i spent in a lebanese household, and i watched how my friend cooked all the food from his homeland. any way, blahblahblah. he showed me how to make labne, which is a kind of cheese made from yogurt. i made a soy version, and it kicks ass.

tell me about the weird things you folks make. i need more fermentation. please help me
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chopper-the man of broken dreams
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  • Re: vegan cultured foods

    Mon, December 8, 2008 - 10:18 PM
    Ooh, I checked out the wild fermentation book from the library a while back but never got around to making anything out of there, do you have any suggested resources to check out or recipes? I'd love to learn to make kimchi!

    Get more people on the train, then we might be able to come up with more interesting stuff!
  • Re: vegan cultured foods

    Thu, December 11, 2008 - 7:21 PM
    i make the following:
    tempeh, kim chi, miso, amazake, sauerkraut, and various kinds of vegetable pickles

    phil
    • Re: vegan cultured foods

      Fri, December 12, 2008 - 10:25 AM
      phil, have you ever made nato? i gave it a shot, but it got infected by something that made it taste like ammonia. what do you use as a starter for you tempeh? i've wanted to make it, and figured i'd just use some commercial brand tempeh to inoculate.
    • Re: vegan cultured foods

      Sun, December 14, 2008 - 7:00 PM
      Tell us how to make kimchi? I looked online a bit, but would be interested in hearing how you do it.
      • Re: vegan cultured foods

        Tue, December 16, 2008 - 10:05 AM

        i salt the napa cabbage for a bit in a big bowl. while that's doing it's thing chop up all the other stuff that goes in it garlic, chilly powder, ginger, green onion, and what ever else you think might be good. if you do a big batch put all the stuff in the ol' food processor. after about 15 20 minutes wash the cabbage really well. it'll be way to salty if you don't. now mix the cabbage up with the spice mix. some people say you can put it in the fridge for a few hours, and it's done. others say you need to ferment it for a while. i've tried it both ways and like it. honstly though i can never get it as good as the store bought. or maybe it's just different.
        • Re: vegan cultured foods

          Fri, December 19, 2008 - 10:37 AM
          So, it's the fermenting thing that freaks me out, I don't really understand how I cultivate the good bacteria while keeping the mold and other nasty out.

          I'll totally try this this weekend, thanks!
          • Re: vegan cultured foods

            Fri, December 19, 2008 - 11:19 AM
            what you're looking for is lactobacillus which naturally occurs on the cabbage. with kimichi you have to apply quite a bit of salt during preparation, so i'd imagine it would kill off most of that good bacteria. i use soy yogurt to start my yogurt projects, so i imagine a small dollop in yer mix would serve as a good inoculant. i wish i had more time, or i'd try that today!

            when i make soy labneh (yogurt cheese) i end up with a bunch of whey. i saved it from the last batch to start my next one, and i bet that would work well for this.

            btw, look up some sauerkraut info. it might help
  • Re: vegan cultured foods

    Sat, December 20, 2008 - 3:36 PM
    What do you make with the labne? Do you just eat it like cream cheese?
    • Re: vegan cultured foods

      Mon, December 22, 2008 - 5:32 PM
      i do eat it like cream cheese sometimes. i also eat it the more arab way. i set it on a plate, cover it with olive oil and surround it with some veggies and toasted pita bread. sunday morning i spread it over gluten free pancakes-hecka good.
      • Re: vegan cultured foods

        Wed, December 31, 2008 - 5:47 PM
        yes i have made natto many times!
        oishi deu ne :)

        for tempeh, i get tempeh starter from some online sources such as gemcultures or teh farm in tennessee

        phil
  • Re: vegan cultured foods

    Sat, January 10, 2009 - 7:16 PM
    I love cultured foods!

    I bought a copy of Wild Fermentation a few years ago and read it literally cover to cover. It's a GREAT book.

    I have a sourdough starter growing on my counter right now that I'm going to use for some bread tomorrow. Started some kombucha at the same time (though that's not really a wild fermentation, still tasty!)

    Funny to run into this thread, as I just wrote my girlfriend a REALLY long email about how to start sourdough.
    • Re: vegan cultured foods

      Sat, January 10, 2009 - 7:18 PM
      Also, anyone have suggestions on making soy yogurt? I tried a few years ago and actually got a little sick from it. I'm going to try again soon (as soon as I grab an excalibur dehydrator, a yogurt maker, or an ice chest to keep it at the right temp). I read a bunch of stuff on getting the right consistency, but some practical advice would be appreciated!
      As a note, I like my yogurt on the sweet rather than sour side, though I'd like to be able to make sour yogurt for indian-food purposes as well.
      • Re: vegan cultured foods

        Mon, January 12, 2009 - 8:48 AM
        soy yogurt is super easy if you cheat. i get one of those soy yogurts with live culture, and mix it with a mason jar full of soy milk. then put it in the oven with the light on. that'll keep it around 90 95f and allow the fermentation to occur. i've used different yogurt and soy milk, and i've found that wildwood yogurt and silk soymilk work best. if you want it sweet you'll need to add sugar, honey, or jam at the end. also, make sure everything you use is very clean and as sterile as possible.
  • Re: vegan cultured foods

    Sun, January 11, 2009 - 10:26 AM
    While in India this Dec, I ate dosa, made from fermented lentils and rice. I think you simply soak equal parts rice and urad lentils (split), and then the next day, grind them together in the blender with water and salt, and leave them to sit and ferment overnight. The next day, ladle them onto a hot griddle and delicious!



    Especially with the easy coconut chutney:
    1/2 coconut
    1 bunch cilantro
    1 tsp cumin seeds
    1/2 chili pepper (or more if you like it hot)
    salt to taste
    1/2 squeezed lemon
    1 tbs tamarind paste

    in the mixer. yummmmmmmm.

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