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non-soy based meat substitutes?

topic posted Mon, April 25, 2005 - 6:48 PM by  Lisa
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Greetings,

I'm a new vegan (for health reasons), no meat, dairy, flour or soy (no estrogens). Anyone have any suggestions for a meat substute?

Thanks, Lisa
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Lisa
Los Angeles
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    Re: non-soy based meat substitutes?

    Mon, April 25, 2005 - 6:57 PM
    if you are concerned about protein i would focus on beans and nuts/seeds. there are many food possibilities without having a 'meat' substitution. i rarely ever eat tofu or tempeh and get tons of protein form beans and such.
    good luck!
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      Tue, April 26, 2005 - 4:55 PM
      I agree. Studies have shown that most people get too much protein, which can inhibit the absorption of essential nutrients, like Calcium. Whole grains and vegetables also have some protein in them.

      The only "meat substitute" that I can think of that meets your criteria is lentil loaf.

      I also recommend quinoa, which has one of the highest proteins and is very tasty:

      www.quinoa.net/
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    Mon, April 25, 2005 - 6:57 PM
    flour? wheat flour? gluten?
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      Tue, April 26, 2005 - 3:27 PM
      The dietary guidlines that I'm following just said "flour"?? I need to do more research because cutting out weat really sucks!
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        Tue, April 26, 2005 - 4:32 PM
        Well, it is my understanding seitan is a wheat-baaed protein source. Basically like tofu, only from wheat instead of soy beans. I don't know if your restiction on flour means no wheat based products.

        ~ken~
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          Tue, April 26, 2005 - 4:50 PM
          I thought it was made with vital wheat gluten, so I guess that depends on your guidelines. Even if it was made with textured vegetable protein, which it's not, that'll still be against your dietary guidelines because TVP is defatted SOY FLOUR, so I don't think seitan'll work for you. Just hope you can have wheat based products, I guess.
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          Tue, April 26, 2005 - 4:53 PM

          I second Jessica's recommendation. Nuts & seeds are filling & nutrient-dense and can be eaten alone or slipped into other recipes (stirfry, pasta, cookie, etc etc); and beans & lentils are wonderfully versatile and nutritious.

          If you're concerned about protein in general, remember that whole grains - quinoa, amaranth, brown rice, etc - can have a relatively high protein content as well (in the range of 12-16% if I remember correctly), and compliment bean & nut proteins.
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            Wed, April 27, 2005 - 2:49 PM
            Thank you everyone!

            Namaste, Lisa
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              Thu, April 28, 2005 - 4:38 PM
              I have to recommend seitan as well. A close friend has a thyroid problem and must avoid soy, so she switched to seitan and the TSH level corrected itself. It's got a good texture, and it's easy to work with. My favorite is the flour mix - just throw it in a bread machine for a few minutes, flatten, cook in stock and it's done.
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    Re: non-soy based meat substitutes?

    Tue, May 3, 2005 - 10:53 AM
    I totally understand about your soy situation-I have a similar problem.

    One thing you might want to try is this: Don't think of it as getting your protein from ONE source; thing combinations.

    Try mixing quinoa with millet, add some chick peas-all three are very digestable and easy on the body-and you get a broader amino acid spectrum when you combine grains and beans.

    also, you might want to look into micro algae, most specifically spirulina.

    also, don't look at it as "meat substitutes", but as just a regular part of your diet.

    some gluten free, non- wheat grains:
    quinoa(as in a privious posting...)
    amaranth
    buckwheat
    millet
    Brown basmati or wild rice
    sorhgum
    corn...? a lot of people have an allergy to this...
    teff
    and oatmeall....but this grain has been grown with wheat for thousands of years, so it might some of the gluten protein in it.

    also: if you are allergic to soy, then you need to be aware of some of the other beans that could cause some kind of reaction, like black beans, kidney beans, etc...

    feel free to messege me any time-I have a holistic nutrition practice and I get this sort of stuff every day.

    michael

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