Miso, miso, miso

topic posted Tue, October 2, 2007 - 8:58 AM by  Naciye
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I dislike miso!

There, I said it... and it felt gooood. Unfortunately I think I'm alone. I see so many recipes calling for various types of miso... what's a girl to do?

Anybody have any suggestions on substitutions or <gulp> how I can become one with miso?
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Naciye
Dallas
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  • Re: Miso, miso, miso

    Wed, October 3, 2007 - 8:09 AM
    I don't really know…I've loved miso since I can remember. I used to take little pieces of the concentrate, and eat it. Okay, yes, that's a little freaky. Now I'm craving miso.
  • Re: Miso, miso, miso

    Fri, October 5, 2007 - 10:51 PM
    As long as we're talking about miso--does everybody really find it so easy to find miso without bonito in it?

    I have done very little with miso, because the only one I can find has bonito (fish flakes). I didn't know what bonito was until after I'd bought it, so I did make a few things and would like to experiment with miso more, but don't know what kind is safe. Any suggestions?
  • Re: Miso, miso, miso

    Fri, October 5, 2007 - 10:52 PM
    Oh, and to the original poster: sorry, as I said, I like miso as far as I can tell.

    You know what I hate, though? Tahini.
    • Re: Miso, miso, miso

      Sat, October 6, 2007 - 12:05 AM
      I used to despise tahini. Until I discovered how much better it tastes in its roasted form, versus raw. If you haven't tried it roasted yet, you might give it a go. ;O)
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        Re: Miso, miso, miso

        Sat, October 6, 2007 - 9:14 AM
        real traditionnal miso should be vegan...the same is true for seaweed.
        But modern korean and japanese manufacturers cheat and add fish sauce when they dry the seaweed and fish in various forms to their miso...to "speed" up the process and artificially give it that salty flavour without actually aging it the way they should.

        Unless you can read korean and japanese don't buy any product where the ingredients are only in those languages...DO NOT blindly trust storeowners (unless you know them well obviously ;-) and even if you can read the language, remember that laws in Korea, China and Japan are quite different than here and many times if something is considered a condiment or a spice they can NOT LIST IT (for proprietory reasons and to protect their recipes) and often when you buy an asian food stuff and it says "spices" spices can mean anything from fish flakes to shrimp powder to fish sauce to even powdered eggs and milk!
        If you go to your health food store instead of the asian market and buy REAL miso, a bit more expensive but worth it.
        It should be vegan.
        here in Ontario I buy this miso: www.traditionmiso.com/ and it is delicious!
        and from the asian vegetarian market (that I trust) I buy this delicious white miso from taiwan, the ingredients are rice, organic soybeans and bamboo salt not even a culture or alcohol...:-) it's from Penn Chion trading Co.

  • Re: Miso, miso, miso

    Mon, October 8, 2007 - 8:48 PM
    I dislike it, too. It's that murky water they give you in a little bowl, isn't it?
    • Re: Miso, miso, miso

      Wed, October 10, 2007 - 5:34 AM
      Thanks for the replies ya'll... for now I think I'll skip snorting it or rubbing it into any open wounds. I decided to try a couple of recipes and figured I would do it the way you get kids to eat their veggies, a little every day until they love it!

      And yes its the main flavor of that icky... errr, I mean interesting soup you get when you go for sushi.
  • Re: Miso, miso, miso

    Wed, October 10, 2007 - 9:12 PM
    Continuing with the miso education, if that's alright--what's the best kind?

    When I went to the health food store, I had the option of red miso, light yellow miso, or mellow red.
    I opted for mellow red, made some miso soup tonight, and find it to be quite bland, even with twice the miso they recommend. Which flavor is best?
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      Re: Miso, miso, miso

      Thu, October 11, 2007 - 9:57 AM
      well white miso is milder in flavour and more salty usually.
      it is more creamy too and is great in "cheese" sauces and as a mild miso soup.

      red miso is more fragrant and is good for glazes and marinades.

      brown miso is very strong and is great to make "stinky cheese" recipes, and for gravy (mushroom gravy)

      all are wonderful in miso soup.
      There are two reasons that your miso soup may not have been very flavourful.
      1. did you boil it? you should never boil miso, it is live culture. The best way is to pop the miso in a pot and add warm water to it.
      2. not enough miso. don't be stingy on the miso, you must put a lot of miso in there (I put two tablespoons for a bowl. and really stir it well, and weight for a cloud to form before serving it.

      also make sure to serve it with nori or wakame algae in it, that adds a lot of flavour! :-)

      one way is to boil water with wakame to make for a tasty sea-flavoured broth, then take it off the heat.
      and let it cool five minutes, then add the miso and slowly stir ...taste it to make sure you like the taste, if it needs more miso add more :-)
  • Re: Miso, miso, miso

    Fri, December 26, 2008 - 11:35 AM
    mmmm..... love... miso....
    I hope you find a way to like it, Naciye! The health beneifits of eating miso are astounding!
    :: runs off to find miso ::
  • Re: Miso, miso, miso

    Wed, December 31, 2008 - 5:51 PM
    there are literaly thousands of things to do with miso. There are a large variety of types of miso; all are different and useful for different soups, sauces, dressings, etc. A good introduction in english is "the Book of Miso" Or "cooking with miso", for explanations of the different types of miso.
    It is one of the healthiest and tastiest condiments to emerge from Japan

    phil
    • Re: Miso, miso, miso

      Wed, December 31, 2008 - 6:07 PM
      I love every miso variety I've tried. I haven't bought any in too long. Next time I go shopping it is on the list, thanks to this thread reminding me how good it is.
      • Re: Miso, miso, miso

        Mon, January 5, 2009 - 10:30 AM
        Philip, would you share your white miso recipe? please? or give us a link?

        I go trough a lot of it and keep running out, the Asian store is far for me on a bike...I would make it unless I need some fancy equipment. is it just soybeans and salt?

        I grow a lot of eggplants and this way of cooking is one of my favorite's and my sweeties favorite, so he always asks for eggplants cooked this way. Mix 1/2 white miso and 1/2 grated ginger, add a few drops of dark sesame oil and stuff on pre-grilled or broiled eggplants (after opening a slit on the long ones, slice the fat ones in thick slices). Add some sesame seeds on top and place under broiler until sesame seeds are brown.

        The above recipe pleases folks who claim to dislike both miso and eggplant, so you might want to give it a try.

        I also dislike tahini! I always omit it from hummus or use other nut butters instead. I will have to give it a try with the seeds roasted though.

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